Libertarian Party of North Carolina Executive Committee Meeting
Concord, North Carolina
Sat, July 28, 2007
called to order by Barbara Howe at 12:14 PM
- Present
- Chair: Barbara Howe
- Vice Chair: Sean Haugh
- Stephanie Watson (Acting Recording Secretary for this meeting)
- Rick Pasotto
- Joy Elliott
- Phil Jacobson
- Brian Irving
- Thomas Hill
- Paul Elledge
- Guest: Mike Helms
- Guest: Marty Readling
- Absent:
- Allison Jaynes
- John Caveny
Barbara distributed the agenda and a contact information sheet to confirm
name, address, and phone information from all EC members.
Additions to the agenda:
- Babara added Old Business: ballot access petitioning
- Sean added Old Business: how to document incidents involving paid petitioners
- Brian added New Business: use of mailing lists
Officer report from the Chair:
- Barbara spoke at a John Locke Foundation event on July 9, 2007, and
was ell-received.
- Barbara reported that she, Mike Munger, and another person are
plaintiffs in the North Carolina Institute for Constitutional Law
lawsuit against Google, Inc., filed Wednesday, July 25, 2007,
challenging the state legislation for having granted certain incentives
(corporate welfare) to Google in exchange for the company locating an
operations center in Caldwell County. This has brought media attention
to the LPNC.
Officer report from the Vice Chair:
- Sean reported having participated in Barbara's place on a conference
call of state chairs for the national Libertarian Party. This was for
planning a state chairs' conference in Las Vegas to be on President's
Day in February 2008. The national party is encouraging state and local
offiers to attend, not just the state chairs, and hoping that it will
become a fun, educational, and worthwhile event. Sean stated that he
would publish details about the event when they come available.
- Sean was asked to be plaintiff in the NC Institute for Constitution
Law lawsuit against Durham County for 6-figure county government-level
incentives offered to Nitronex.
- Sean announced upcoming radio appearances:
- Accompanying Lee Wrights for an appearance on "Liberated Space,"
hosted by libertarian Angela Keaton (California LP Executive Director,
LNC At-Large); show is broadcast online and in various other
locations.
- Joining Lee Wrights as guest hosts for Matt Mittan's
Asheville-based show for WWNC
- Appearing monthly on the nationally syndicated Jerry Hughes' show
"Straight Talk"
Officer report from the Acting Recording Secretary:
- Stephanie reported that she was typing and prepared to assemble and
distribute the minutes for this meeting.
Officer report from the Treasurer:
- Barbara reported in John's absence.
- Barbara reported the current checking account balance as
$24,529.78.
- Sean added an agenda item: report of matching federal funds
- Barbara reported that $12,802.99 was in the ballot access fund and
that John reported the lawsuit fund as $0. Barbara expressed that the
lawsuit fund may not include the $10,000 designated for this fund in the
previous EC meeting.
- Point of information (Sean): Did recent payments to the attorney
come out of the lawsuit fund already? Barbara responded that $4000 has
gone to the attorney of the designated $10,00 from the last EC meeting,
and she corrected her previous statement to say that $6000 should be
remaining in the lawsuit fund.
- Barbara mentioned that the outstanding balance for the attorney is
approximately $8000 and continues to grow as the attorney continues
working on the lawsuit.
- Barbara added she had paid Brian for newsletter distribution, also,
which was around $230.
Point of information (Sean):
- Is there a Membership Secretary report? Barbara responded that she
had no membership report, only that she had the most recent database
records from the LNC and was waiting for software.
Reports filed with State Board of Elections
Officer report from the Convention Committee:
- Joy reported on locations she was looking into as possible convention sites, including:
- Embassy Suites off Harrison Avenue in Cary, NC; information is
pending meeting with a representative for an estimate
- Clarion downtown Raleigh (former Holiday Inn); the hotel may be
converting its top-level restaurant into a small convention center
- Joy mentioned that she had not yet investigated possibilities in
Durham.
- Joy expressed her efforts were focused on selecting a central
location for TV media, encouraging them to send reporters for convention
coverage.
Phil added an agenda item:
- officer reports from the Webmaster and Communications Director
officers (not previously listed on Agenda)
Officer report from County Affiliate Affairs:
- No officer reported; Barbara made a point to check the previous EC
minutes to determine if an officer was appointed for the
position.
- Sean reported that Libertarians from Asheville have been involved in
a local referendum regarding ballot access. The city council recently
decided that local elections would be partisan, presumably in an attempt
to push out independent and third party candidates. Nonpartisan
candidates wishing to seek ballot access are required to petition,
though the law does not say that the signators have to be registered
voters, only "residents of the city." Sean described a particular
libertarian candidate who received sufficient signatures to get on the
ballot in accordance to this specifications, and that there is a current
conflict with the Buncombe County Board of Elections about the
signators. If the petition holds, the local referendum will be on the
new partisan ballot, and voters will be able to vote on whether the
partisan voting should continue.
- Point of information (Brian): news sources indicate that the council
has not gotten the approval from the NC Department of Justice for its
actions to make the election partisan and that the referendum would have
to preceed the partisan ballot
- Point of information (Sean): Buncombe County is not one of the 40
states to which the Voting Rights Act applies and that the council would
have to actively reverse their actions
- Barbara discussed that she would ensure more of the Asheville city
council issue is clarified when she makes a trip to that area in the
coming days.
Officer report from Campus Affiliate Affairs:
- Joy reported that Paul sent her an email with the email addresses
for the libertarians at UNC, but the email was lost and she is waiting
for it to be resent.
- Paul clarified that an entering law school student that has been
participating at UNC-G libertarian group meetings has expressed interest
in starting a group at the UNC School of Law.
There was no Legislative Agenda Report due to no officers or
appointees assigned to that task.
Lawsuit Committee report:
- Barbara stated that the summary judgement for the lawsuit was still
scheduled for September 17, 2007.
- Point of information (Phil): there is one more EC meeting before the
summary judgement
- Discussion between Phil, Sean, and Barbara about attorney
interaction and billing for interactions.
- Point of information (Phil): is there an archive of the attorney
bills?
- Barbara confirmed that Alex had scanned in most of them and that she
was planning the scan in the rest so that they could be shared.
- Point of information (Phil): attorney said the LPNC needs to
consider how to proceed after the judgement
- Barbara confirmed that this is something the committee would need to
address.
Outreach Director report:
- Susan could not be reached, so there was no report from
her.
- Phil conveyed that Susan mentioned a Constitution Day event planned
at the residence of Mike Munger in Chatham County.
Ballot Access Petitioning Committee report:
- Barbara reported that LNC Chair Bill Redpath requested numbers we
could provide about our ballot access drive so that the treasurer can
have a level of detail appropriate for determining financial assistance
from the national party.
- Barbara explained that Bob Ritchie's report (distributed)
incorporates the details necessary to meet this request, though it is
not ready yet to send to Bill.
Issues and Priorities Committee report:
- Michael Munger was not present, and there was no report.
Webmaster report:
- Rick explained that the lpnc.org domain is not yet transferred and
that Sean needed to log in to Network Solutions to release the
domain.
- Rick mentioned that GoDaddy.com is offering a 25% discount for
purchases of $70 or more.
- Rick noted that he purchased two domains at a significant discount
to help with the domain transfer process: lpnc.us and
lpnc.info.
- Rick mentioned that lpnc.net was expiring and that someone emailed
him to offer to sell it to him. He did not know how much the individual
wanted, but he did not see a need to have the .net.
- Sean expressed interest in holding the .net and .com domains when
they come available and encouraged Rick to discuss offers.
- Rick conveyed that there may be value in adding another $30/year to
our website costs have a dedicated IP address for the domain.
- Rick stated that he still needed to meet with John about encrypting
credit card information on the site.
- Rick encouraged everyone to provide suggestions.
- Point of information (Phil): are the open officer positions on the
site and can they have better on-site visibility?
- Rick answered that they were on the site as blanks on the EC page,
but he could add it to the front page.
- Point of information (Phil): are the bylaws current as shown on the
site?
- Barbara stated that the convention rules are up-to-date but that the
bylaws are not yet complete.
- Rick explained that Brian had sent a version of the newsletter that
could be put on the website and asked how subscribers should be notified
that it is available there.
- Barbara responded that previously, her and Tom waited until the
paper newsletter was in recipients hands, then put the file online for
download. She said she was not sure what happened to the electronic
subscriber list.
- Barbara contributed that the newsletter was sent not just to paid
LPNC members but also to LNC members across NC.
- Phil suggested emailing an announcement with a simple link to let
people know it is available.
- Discussion followed that we need an email announcement list to
closely follow the newsletter mailings.
Communications Director report:
- Brian submitted a written report and offered summary
points.
- Brian described his goal to print the newsletter on a more regular
schedule (perhaps once per quarter year), despite the length of the
report, so that recipients would anticipate its arrival at certain
intervals.
- Brian was also interested in having an online version of the
newsletter that corresponded with the printed version, but was possibly
more extensive and up-to-date than the printed version.
- Brian proposed an "Outreach Issue" to distribute at the NC State
Fair and other outreach events for an audience outside the paid party
members ("external" rather than "internal" audience).
- Phil and Brian both proposed a possible expansion of the existing
mailing list to include contacts in media outlets.
- Discussion followed between Barbara and Brian regarding the costs
for printing.
- Brian described the differences between the features and costs of
different printing services. Pip Printing in Cary could print in four
hours, and Brian did the final fold and addressing ($360 plus tax, not
including postage). Freedom Mailing did more, including making it ready
to drop off at the post office ($455, not including postage).
- Point of information (Joy): has Brian looked into cheaper services
that are out of state and not as timely
- Brian replied that he did not want to sacrifice the quality of the
newsletter and thus had not pursued cheaper alternatives.
- MOTION (Sean): Allocate up to $500 per quarter for the Tarheel Libertarian mailings.
** Second by Thomas.
** Passed unanimously.
- Brian reported that he was working on a news release about Cary's
instant run-off voting (IRV) for its town council. He will distribute
this news release to media outlets from a list received from the
national party (including specific reporters).
- Rick led the suggestion for a podcast, and Sean and Stephanie
volunteered to pursue that idea.
Barbara declared a 5 minute recess.
Old Business:
- Incident discussed from the previous meeting regarding paid
petitioner in Asheville who misused information for personal
purposes:
- Barbara reported that prior to being proactive about contacting the
police in Asheville, she tried unsuccessfully to contact the woman who
had reported being harrassed. Barbara will continue to try to be
proactive, though she feels that perhaps no news is good news with
regards to the matter.
- Sean emphasized that we should be proactive to address the legal
liability, making sure we have done everything we can to address what
has happened, including cooperating with law enforcement as necessary.
He said that we need to ensure that neither the offending petitioner nor
the other petitioner who brought him in work for us in this state again.
- Sean expressed that we need to report incident to the national
committee to protect other states who might use those petitioners'
services. This was prompted by his observing those individuals trying
to get more money from the national committee for continued petitioning
efforts with national. (Personal donations were made to meet the request
rather than LP funds.)
- Sean asked that we document the incident and show this to the
national committee if the same individuals try to cause problems for
them.
- Ballot access petitioning business was covered during committee
report.
New Business:
- Leveraging mailing lists to help a local candidate in Raleigh:
- Brian said he was in contact with Dave Williams in Raleigh who
was running for an At-Large seat on the Raleigh City Council. Brian
explained that Dave, who is a party member and came across very much
as a Libertarian, was hoping to leverage the local mailing lists to
garner support for his campaign.
- Sean confirmed that he knew the individual and could verify his
dedication to the Libertarian party from past actions.
- Barbara and Joy mentioned that a Wake County list would probably
be more useful, and Joy said she would look into providing a Wake
County list.
- Barbara added that the LPNC has had a policy to help prospective
Libertarian candidates in local and county elections.
- Sean clarified that our mailing lists can be used however we
want and that we are not obliged to share those lists just because
they were originally from a public source.
- George Phillies, prospective presidential candidate for the
Libertarian Party, wants to offer help states in their ballot access
drives:
- Barbara and Sean reported that he was offering to give us $500
now and $2000 later depending on his funds raised.
- The money would have limitations on how we could use it,
including promiting federal-level candidates rather than state-level
efforts and candidates.
- Sean clarified that the LPNC would be required to keep the money
in the federal account, and we could not use it for state
purposes.
- Sean recommended we not spend such money on the ballot access
drive because a "gray area" in election law (enforced by the Federal
Election Commission) that indicates that such a drive is not a
federal activity even though it puts federal candidates on the
ballot.
- Sean explained that if we pass $5000 of activity in the federal
account in a two-year election cycle, the LPNC is over the filing
threshold requiring that John file regular reports about the federal
account to the FEC.
- Sean wishes that we not push the legal limits or get to a point
of having to file reports with the FEC.
- Sean stated that our LPNC activity has been minimal (around $700
currently in the account), and that taking all that Phillies is
offering would put us half way to the point of having to file.
- Sean concluded that if we take the money and could not spend it
on our top state issues (lawsuit and ballot access drive), we would
need to determine how to spend the money in a way that aids the
donor.
- Phil projected that we would get on the ballot with or without
this particular donation, and having acheived ballot access we will
want to run campaigns for presidential and gubernatorial candidates
together, aiming for at least 2% of the votes. These campaigns
would make the effort valid for federal funding.
- Next EC meetings:
- September 8, 2007, 11 AM, at Lone Star on High Point Rd in
Greensboro, NC
- Tentative additional dates are October 20, December 2, and
January 13.
- The October meeting is tentatively in the Durham area
- Run candidates to take advantage of being on the ballot:
- Thomas added that we should ensure we have more candidates for
political offices across the state to back up our efforts toward
getting on the ballot.
- Sean declared that he was going to make a concerted effort to
win Durham County Commissioner.
- Phil reiterated the goal to get 2% vote in the state-level
elections.
- Sean expressed approval of the idea to have local individuals
supporting Munger while also having their names on the ballot for
local positions (joint campaigning efforts).
MOTION (Sean):
- Adjourn ** Second not required. ** Passed unanimously.
Liberty is always dangerous, but it is the safest thing we have. -- Harry Emerson Fosdick